Talk:San Jose State University

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

Not moved, 14 October 2022, to San José State University, see discussion.
Not moved, 22 December 2024, to San Jose State, see discussion.

Requested move 14 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. As laid out in the discussion, current name appears to be the common name. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 15:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

San Jose State University → San José State University – The official name and corresponding logos contain an accent over the e. Jay Coop · Talk · Contributions 19:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:36, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia prefers the common name used by most independent reliable sources, not the official name. Most local and national media, as well as other independent reliable sources, especially when covering the university's football team and its other sports teams, seem to commonly use "Jose" without the accent when covering the school.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] This is consistent with the common usage of the name of the city of San Jose, without the accent. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:34, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME for the reasons stated. --Coolcaesar (talk) 02:31, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support, the accent is not only used overwhelmingly in official sources, it is also used by third parties, from major news outlets to major college rankings (such as ESPN - San José State Spartans Basketball or US News & World Report - San José State University). Cristiano Tomás (talk) 14:21, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Agree with Zzyzx11. Also note that the first external link in above comment mostly uses "Jose" without the accent, and the second uses both, very inconsistently. Station1 (talk) 08:11, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME based on the Google Ngrams. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:33, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 13 January 2023

San Jose State University → San José State University

The official name of the institution is San José State University (with diacritical mark included), and has been this way now for at least a decade. Many page-one Google search returns for "San Jose State University" include the diacritical mark. These search returns include the university's official website, all of the university's official social media feeds, the latest USNWR college rankings and Glassdoor. ESPN also includes the diacritical mark in all of its SJSU athletics coverage.

Why are we resisting referring to SJSU correctly and accurately? A Wiki page move here helps to clear the air and basically set the record state. Let Wikipedia lead by example as any legitimate encyclopedic enterprise should.

In Wiki's own published essay on this topic, it states: "Particular care is taken to spell personal names correctly."

Moreover, the essay states: "Accuracy (the lack of diacritics in foreign names is considered a grammatical error or misspelling by several reliable sources), consistency (following the "house style" instead of case-by-case use of the most common spelling), harmlessness (the diacriticless spelling is deducible from the proper noun, but not vice versa), pronunciation guidance, informativeness (an encyclopedia's primary purpose is to educate the readers by providing accurate, complete and trustworthy information) and respect (particularly with living people, knowingly misspelling a name could be both unencyclopedic and unethical)."

Can we put this to a vote again, please? Let's do the right thing here.

Londonfifo (talk) 04:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:DIACRITICAL MARKS Again, there is no harm in including the diacritic here since the old, incorrect spelling is easily deduced from the newer, correct spelling. Conversely, and more importantly, the correct spelling that includes the diacritic cannot easily be deduced from the old, incorrect spelling. Above all, Wikipedia is supposed to reflect current, accurate information; not outdated, inaccurate information. The official name of the university is San José State University and has been for years. Let's get this right per Wiki's own guidelines. Londonfifo (talk) 05:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:DIACRITICAL MARKS: For the same reasons stated by @Londonfifo SammySpartan (talk) 22:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

— Relisting. SammySpartan (talk) 23:50, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:California State Normal School which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 20:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved per WP:SNOW, considered in the context of the 100+ RMs proposed at once by this user. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

San Jose State University → San Jose State – WP:COMMONNAME. Theparties (talk) 11:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The full name provides a WP:TITLECON consistent naming convention across all articles on universities and colleges in the United States. Many reliable sources like Forbes and US News and World Report still use the full name. The OP has also made numerous individual RMs on this same issue like this one, which may violate WP:ACROTITLE or use a shorter common name that is rarely used outside a sports/athletic context. Better to stick to the status quo. Zzyzx11 (talk) 14:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as unnecessary, unwise, and confusing for readers. ElKevbo (talk) 15:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per the comments of Zzyzx11. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 16:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per above. --Coolcaesar (talk) 18:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.